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Cancer treatment

Amygdalin was first isolated in 1830. In 1845 it was used as a cancer treatment in Russia, and in the 1920s in the United States, but it was considered too poisonous.[22] In the 1950s, a purportedly non-toxic, synthetic form was patented for use as a meat preservative,[23] and later marketed as laetrile for cancer treatment.[22]

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration prohibited the interstate shipment of amygdalin and laetrile in 1977.[24] [25] Thereafter, 27 U.S. states legalized the use of amygdalin within those states.[26]

[edit]Initial studies at Sloan-Kettering

In 1972, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center (MSKCC) board member Benno C. Schmidt, Sr. convinced the hospital to test laetrile so that he could assure others of its ineffectiveness "with some conviction."[27] Kanematsu Sugiura, the scientist who performed the requested tests, found that laetrile inhibited secondary tumors in mice, though it did not destroy the primary tumors. He repeated the experiment several times with the same results. However, three other researchers were unable to confirm Sugiura's results. While these uncontrolled and inconclusive results were considered too preliminary to publish, they were leaked to laetrile advocates, resulting in significant public attention.[27]

To expand on Sugiura's results, MSKCC researchers conducted a controlled experiment in which they injected some mice with laetrile (as Sugiura had done) and others with placebo. Sugiura, who was unaware of which mice had received laetrile, performed the pathologic analysis. In this controlled, blinded follow-up of Sugiura's initial uncontrolled experiment, laetrile showed no more activity than placebo.[27]

Subsequently, laetrile was tested on 14 tumor systems without evidence of effectiveness. Given this collection of results, MSKCC concluded that "laetrile showed no beneficial effects."[27] Mistakes in the MSKCC press release were highlighted by a group of laetrile proponents led by Ralph Moss, former public affairs official of MSKCC who was fired following his appearance at a press conference accusing the hospital of covering up the benefits of laetrile.[28] These mistakes were considered scientifically inconsequential, but Nicholas Wade in Science stated that "even the appearance of a departure from strict objectivity is unfortunate."[27] The results from these studies were published all together.[29]

RNG.....sledujem tvoj postoj k vsetkemu a spoznal som ta.

Si zaujaty clovek .Este raz ti pisem......poznam takych ako ty co veria v nieco a nic ine nepripustia k telu. Bigotnost je tvoje ,,JA".

Simi, vybranim lalokov sice odstranili cast nadoru, ale rakovinne bunky sa v oslabenom a zamorenom tele vytvaraju stale a preto treba zamiorernie odstranit a tel0o posilit.

Odporucam najma betaglukany 3 x 400 mg denne na posilnenie vyroby a cinnosti bielych krviniek,

brat silne enzymi na precistenie tela, pripadne aj absoerbenty a chelatory, kdeze tieto tiez odmoruju telo

hodne antioxidantov, ktore posilnuju obranu tela, najma polyfenoly a specificky na pluca elagitanin.

Pripadne pri znizenej imuniea aj ine ako napr adaptogeny, ako astragalus,cordyceps, a antimikrobialne pri roznych chorobach, nezabudat aj na probiotika, lebo v zdravej crevnej flore sa vyrobi az 70% vseytkych obrannych latok, ktorymi telo disponuje.

Atb sice potlaci niektore infekcie, teda len bakterialne, ale zaroven oslabi telo znizenim probiotik. preto davam prednost doplnkom z antimikrobialnymi ucinkami, ktore probiotika neznicia. Naviac maju aj ovela sirsi zaber, lebo su niektore ucinne aj na bakterie atb rezistentne. Casto tu spominam GSE/citricidal, oreganovy olej/carvacrol, extrakt z olivovych listov/oleuropein,Samento, graviolu a rozne antiviralne

Maros, za prve ma vobec nepoznas, za druhe nic tu nepredavam, to som robil pred vyse 3 rokmi a musel som z toho pre rozne dovody uplne=kompletne vystupit, a za tretie, davam sem rady lekarov, co maju s doplnkami vybornu skusenost a niektori liecia LEN doplnkami a to ucinnejsie, nez k;lasicvka medicina. To je samozrejme velky dovod na to, aby ich ociernovalim kde sa len da, lebo to organizovanej medicine a farmacii znizuje obrat. Naviac nevidim, ze by si tu mal nejake dobre rady okrem odporucasnia klasickej mediciny a jej monopolu, takze ta odteraz kompletne ignorujem.

Ok a o akú pomoc teda máte záujem ? Na pomoc klasickou medicinou ci liekmi mate lekarov konzekventnej mediciny,ktori ako vidno mame nepomahaju ale to uz je na Vas.

Mala som skor na mysli alternativnu medicinu a poradenstvo lekarov( nie bylinkarov),ktori sa nou zaobaraju tu priamo na Slovensku.

o herbalife a podobne nemam zaujem....

Na zvýšenie imunity a regeneráciu trávenia je potrebné piť:

čaj Aloe Blossom Herbal Tea,Aloe Vera Gel, Active probiotics,Echinacea Supreme,Bee Pollen, Fields of Green. Viac sa o produktoch môžete dozvedieť na:www.aloepriroda.com alebo mi môžete napísať aj na mail.Poskytujem písomné a aj osobné poradenstvo, konzultujem s poradným zborom lekárov.

Na zvýšenie imunity a regeneráciu trávenia je potrebné piť:

čaj Aloe Blossom Herbal Tea,Aloe Vera Gel, Active probiotics,Echinacea Supreme,Bee Pollen, Fields of Green. Viac sa o produktoch môžete dozvedieť na:www.aloepriroda.com alebo mi môžete napísať aj na mail.Poskytujem písomné a aj osobné poradenstvo, konzultujem s poradným zborom lekárov.

poradte prosim...RNG... mojej mame pred 2 rokmi nasli nador na plucach, cely vybrali ( 2 laloky) , a nebrala ani chemoterapiu potom,nebolo treba,zdravotny stav ma teraz ok, chodi na kontroly do Hagov a vsetko v poriadku. ma 60 rokov.uz je na dochodku. trapi ma ale ze je kazdu chvilu chora, nejaky kasel,prechladnutie, lekari jej zakazdym daju antibiotika,ktore jej robia strasne zle na zaludok (ten uz ma asi komplet podrazdeny od liekov lebo este berie aj nieco na stitnu zlazu), uz parkrat sa stalo ze skoncila na infuziach v nemocnici co jej bolo tak zle...viem ze asi sa boja aby nedostala nejaky zapal na tie oslabene pluca, ale podla mna ma oslabenu imunitu a rada by som jej pomohla,nejakym vyzivovym doplnkom alebo niecim prirodnym,nie do seba len pchat antibiotika,ved sa uplne znici...poradte

poradte prosim...RNG... mojej mame pred 2 rokmi nasli nador na plucach, cely vybrali ( 2 laloky) , a nebrala ani chemoterapiu potom,nebolo treba,zdravotny stav ma teraz ok, chodi na kontroly do Hagov a vsetko v poriadku. ma 60 rokov.uz je na dochodku. trapi ma ale ze je kazdu chvilu chora, nejaky kasel,prechladnutie, lekari jej zakazdym daju antibiotika,ktore jej robia strasne zle na zaludok (ten uz ma asi komplet podrazdeny od liekov lebo este berie aj nieco na stitnu zlazu), uz parkrat sa stalo ze skoncila na infuziach v nemocnici co jej bolo tak zle...viem ze asi sa boja aby nedostala nejaky zapal na tie oslabene pluca, ale podla mna ma oslabenu imunitu a rada by som jej pomohla,nejakym vyzivovym doplnkom alebo niecim prirodnym,nie do seba len pchat antibiotika,ved sa uplne znici...poradte

RNG......ja mam tu loz??

Tebe ta tvoja chyba uz len tri krat a bude to tvoja pravda.

To je ako s mimozemstanmi ,tiez tomu ludia uverili.

Kazda strana ma nieco do seba,ale netaraj tu,ze klasicka medicina je neucinna a vlastne proti ludom a ich zdraviu.

Alternativnu medicinu mozes vyuzit pri jednoduchych hlupostiach,nie pri vaznych chorobach.

Si strasne zaujaty a zrejme sa tomu venujes aj predajom.Ale ty budes stale tarat svoje,to viem. Aj loz ak jej clovek uveri ......je pre cloveka svata pravda. Poznam takyh ludi ako si ty a viem,ze v ich v zlom presvedceni nikto nepresvedci o opaku.

Nuz keby bol leatrile tak neucinnym preco by ludia potichu z USA sa chdili liecit do Mexika prave tym "neucinnym" leatrilom?

Uz Musolini povedal ze "stokrat opakovana loz sa stane v ociach mas pravdou" tak Maros, uz mas 2 x a chyba ti este 98 krat.

Ale aj Musolini nakoniec zakoncil svoju karieru umyvania mozgov neslavne tak ako budu muset raz zakoncit ti, co broja proti inym metodam liecenia rakovin nez typicke "noz, ohen a jed" tj operacie, ozarovania a chemoterapia, ale dufam ze menej drasticky.

Mnohe nemocnice, (Cancer Institutes) uz zacinaju pridavat do toho tzv Komplementarnu medicinu a rozne ziviny, takze "lady sa postupne lamu"

Cancer treatment

Amygdalin was first isolated in 1830. In 1845 it was used as a cancer treatment in Russia, and in the 1920s in the United States, but it was considered too poisonous.[22] In the 1950s, a purportedly non-toxic, synthetic form was patented for use as a meat preservative,[23] and later marketed as laetrile for cancer treatment.[22]

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration prohibited the interstate shipment of amygdalin and laetrile in 1977.[24] [25] Thereafter, 27 U.S. states legalized the use of amygdalin within those states.[26]

[edit]Initial studies at Sloan-Kettering

In 1972, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center (MSKCC) board member Benno C. Schmidt, Sr. convinced the hospital to test laetrile so that he could assure others of its ineffectiveness "with some conviction."[27] Kanematsu Sugiura, the scientist who performed the requested tests, found that laetrile inhibited secondary tumors in mice, though it did not destroy the primary tumors. He repeated the experiment several times with the same results. However, three other researchers were unable to confirm Sugiura's results. While these uncontrolled and inconclusive results were considered too preliminary to publish, they were leaked to laetrile advocates, resulting in significant public attention.[27]

To expand on Sugiura's results, MSKCC researchers conducted a controlled experiment in which they injected some mice with laetrile (as Sugiura had done) and others with placebo. Sugiura, who was unaware of which mice had received laetrile, performed the pathologic analysis. In this controlled, blinded follow-up of Sugiura's initial uncontrolled experiment, laetrile showed no more activity than placebo.[27]

Subsequently, laetrile was tested on 14 tumor systems without evidence of effectiveness. Given this collection of results, MSKCC concluded that "laetrile showed no beneficial effects."[27] Mistakes in the MSKCC press release were highlighted by a group of laetrile proponents led by Ralph Moss, former public affairs official of MSKCC who was fired following his appearance at a press conference accusing the hospital of covering up the benefits of laetrile.[28] These mistakes were considered scientifically inconsequential, but Nicholas Wade in Science stated that "even the appearance of a departure from strict objectivity is unfortunate."[27] The results from these studies were published all together.[29]

Ja osobne sa sustredim len na potravinove doplnky,tj prostiedky prirodne a neskodne, ktore sa beru ustne(per os), nanajvys transdermalne.. Na ine si netrufam radit, nanajvys okopirujem pasivne spravu od nejakeho lekara, co to pouziva bez osobneho odporucenia alebo komentaru.

A znova opakujem, odstranenim nadoru sa rakovina nevylieci, lebo zamorene telo vytvori nove loziska a spravidla ma stovky mikroskopickych, zatial lekarmi nezistitelnych lozisk po celom tele. Nestaci teda len znicit nador, ale treba telo odmorit a posilnit, aby bolo schopne kazdu chybnu bunku ucinne a rychlo znicit.

chcela by som sa opytat, ci je mozne aby Vitamin B17 podporoval tvorbu lymfatickych uzlin.

dakujem

sorry, preklep... srdecna vdaka za pomoc...

ahojte,

panecku ked vy to tak vsetko opisujete ze ja o tom nemam ani ponatia... tie odborne vyrazy atd.

len som chcela vediet ci mate skusenost a mms + chemoterapia intravenozne (nie ozarovanie)

alebo

chemo + B17 intravenozne co by bolo najlepsie a najucinnejsie...

bez problemov az by sme to podali bez vedomia lekarov a to z toho dovodu lebo o tom nic nevedia....

situacia je taka ze to je lymfom na hrubom creve najedny dost neskoro, nevyoperovany. poskodena pecen a zlcnik...

srdecna vdaka ho pomoc.

Nie je problem vytvorit akekolvek vysledky na experimenty na podporenie zakazu nejakej latky, a to sa podarilo farmaceutom s leatrilom Ono ustne zobrany vo vacsich davkach po reakcii so zaludocnou kyselinou vylucuje prudko jedovatu kyselinu kyanovodikovu. preto len injekcia rozpustene v DMSO mozu dat do tela davky, ktore su ucinne citotoxicke. Samozrejme kedze chceli prirodnu latku potlacit v prospech novych patentovanych priserne drahych farmaceutik,tak si na to kupili vyskumnikov co to "jasne" dokazali a FDA zakazala aj B-17 aj DMSO, pre istotu v USA . neskor sa im dokonca cez Kongres podarilo presadit rozhodnutie, ze tvrdenie, ze sa da liecit rakovina inac nez operacne, ziarenim a chemoterapiou je trestne zavadzanie ludi.

Samozrejme to je utok na slobodu a demokraciu, ale take su uz vsetky vlady a tzv demokracie, pokial to ludia znesu a nevzburia sa.

Tak isto v roku 1996 sice povolili predavat potravinove doplnky volne, pokial nemaju ziadne skodlive ucinky, ale je trestne o nich tvrdit, ze maju liecive ucinky aj napriek tomu, ze je dostatok dokazov na to. Ale nie oficialne, lebo len FDA to moze oficioalne ptrehlasitr a ta je v rukach faraceutickeho priemyslu viacmenej.

nejeden vyrobca, co sa odvazil tvrdit, ze jeho vyrobky liecia sedi vo vazeni so zhabanym majetkom, presne tak, ako keby predaval zakazane drogy.

Nuz ale pravda sa neda celkom potlacit a v susednom Mexiku je hromada klinik,, kde sa chodia americania z rakovin liecit, a jeden z castych nastrojov je prave ten v USA zakazany vitamin B-17, napodiv tam ucinny.

Nuz mozno je to pre to, ze tam rozpravaju spanielsky, hahaha a tamojsi ludia nemaju dost penazi na drahe chemoterapeutika. Takto z vyse 650 tisic ludi , co v USA umre z rakovin im unikne odhadom az 30 tisic do lacnejsej a ucinnejsej zony klinik v Mexiku. Tj je to strata pre farmaciu a onkologov, ale nie privelka a sucasnou reklamou a roznymi umyvaniami mozgov toto dalej nerastie, tj dostanu vyse 95% moznych penazi z rakovinnych pacientov tak ci tak.

Zialbohu, tu sa nejedna vobec o pacientoch a ich zdravi, ale peniazoch, tak ako v kazdom inom priemysle. Kedze ale vacsina ludi si to nevie este stale uvedomit a zostavaju v naivite, ze organizovana medicina sa im nadovsetko snazi pomoct, system operuje bezchybne dalej a obera ludi az o 17.5 % celkoveho narodneho dochodku. toho samotna chemoterapia je asi 800 miliard, tj znacna cast.

Cancer treatment

Amygdalin was first isolated in 1830. In 1845 it was used as a cancer treatment in Russia, and in the 1920s in the United States, but it was considered too poisonous.[22] In the 1950s, a purportedly non-toxic, synthetic form was patented for use as a meat preservative,[23] and later marketed as laetrile for cancer treatment.[22]

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration prohibited the interstate shipment of amygdalin and laetrile in 1977.[24] [25] Thereafter, 27 U.S. states legalized the use of amygdalin within those states.[26]

[edit]Initial studies at Sloan-Kettering

In 1972, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center (MSKCC) board member Benno C. Schmidt, Sr. convinced the hospital to test laetrile so that he could assure others of its ineffectiveness "with some conviction."[27] Kanematsu Sugiura, the scientist who performed the requested tests, found that laetrile inhibited secondary tumors in mice, though it did not destroy the primary tumors. He repeated the experiment several times with the same results. However, three other researchers were unable to confirm Sugiura's results. While these uncontrolled and inconclusive results were considered too preliminary to publish, they were leaked to laetrile advocates, resulting in significant public attention.[27]

To expand on Sugiura's results, MSKCC researchers conducted a controlled experiment in which they injected some mice with laetrile (as Sugiura had done) and others with placebo. Sugiura, who was unaware of which mice had received laetrile, performed the pathologic analysis. In this controlled, blinded follow-up of Sugiura's initial uncontrolled experiment, laetrile showed no more activity than placebo.[27]

Subsequently, laetrile was tested on 14 tumor systems without evidence of effectiveness. Given this collection of results, MSKCC concluded that "laetrile showed no beneficial effects."[27] Mistakes in the MSKCC press release were highlighted by a group of laetrile proponents led by Ralph Moss, former public affairs official of MSKCC who was fired following his appearance at a press conference accusing the hospital of covering up the benefits of laetrile.[28] These mistakes were considered scientifically inconsequential, but Nicholas Wade in Science stated that "even the appearance of a departure from strict objectivity is unfortunate."[27] The results from these studies were published all together.[29]

Velmi dobra je kombinacia vit.B17 intravenozne a prirodnych doplnkov vyzivy.

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